The ending had a LOT of references to other shows. Andy Griffith, The Fugitive, Mary Tyler Moore Show, and MASH. The next to last show had some of the Steve Allen Show cast as parents of the doctors who came to town for the Dr of the Year banquet.
Terrence Knox is just sort of a forgotten part of this show. It was my favorite show BECAUSE of him. Peter White was a very important part of St. Elsewhere. I know he was a rapist, but it seemed that from episode 1 they had written Terrence Knox's character into a wall with no redemption. He was a caring dad and truly loved his wife.However, the writers just chose to ruin this character from the get go. How sad. Terrence was great, and very gorgeous.
One of the most creative and best acted television shows EVER. It was "can't miss" television and yet it never got great ratings which is a total mystery to me. If the broadcast networks want a template for a new show, look no further than St. Elsewhere.
I came late to this show. For some ridiculous reason I failed to watch it when it first aired. I was a member of the medical profession yet saw no value in the series. How foolish! I discovered it recently and binged watched the entire 6 seasons while watching a tiny little blurry screen. It was the best I could find...here on youtube. I am so grateful that I found it and to those who posted it for the rest of us. This was television at it's finest and acting, writing and directing to be admired, in awe of and remembered. I loved it and I have not seen anything like it since. All these years later I still cried watching the last show...snow globe and all.
SE had low ratings because the things it needed--younger, prettier actors and more sex--were absent and the show's producers refused to put them in. Later on, ER and Chicago Hope succeeded because those elements were included from the outset. ER became a huge hit because one of its minor stars, George Clooney, was upgraded to major very early on. SE's audience got tired of seeing so much of most episodes devoted to Mark & Ellen Craig plus Donald Westphall. Would love to have seen Shirley Daniels and Annie Cavanero have a less fling. Oh, well...
Have you noticed that when a star makes it really big like Denzel, they are too special to appear on a TV or movie reunion? I recall Travolta not being on the remembrances on the special DVD release of Saturday Night Fever.
Britain Swarbrick You ARE wrong, Denzel’s an AssHole!....he think he’s all that now. He probably felt this reunion was beneath him but St. Elsewhere put his ass on the map. He said years ago in an old interview that he was thinking about giving up acting because he wasn’t getting anywhere and then he got St. Elsewhere. You’d think he’d be honored to show up like everyone else. That show was a groundbreaking hospital show, I used to watch it too.
RovingRoy He may not have been included in the "Saturday Night Fever" reunions, but he definitely appeared at all of the "Welcome Back, Kotter" reunions when most of the cast (minus Sylvester White, who passed in 1989) was still with us. That is what really put Travolta on the map. Sadly, Robert Heyhes, Ron Palillo and Marcia Straussman have, also, since passed on, relatively young, too.
Brilliant TV...along with Hill St. Blues & Homicide Life on the Street, and even Sports Night. Great shows that never found an audience. Viewers had no idea what they were missing. Some of today's dramas don't come even close to these great series, IMHO.
This was a brilliant show from TVs last-gasp Golden Era just before the arrival of cable. It's now largely overlooked but its role in the evolution of television drama was profound. Numerous Hollywood careers were launched by the program, most notably Denzel Washington. It's a shame that young people are deprived of experiencing these great old series with their awesome opening music and terrific ensemble casts. In those days the writers turned out original plot lines and top-notch dialogue, unlike the wretched garbage we see on TV these days. It's a nostalgic kick to see this video.
Also uttered the iconic "Plastics" line in "The Graduate". On one of the St E episodes, Craig and his wife went to Philadephia which is where they met at Penn U. She said something about him having a great singing voice but he never would sing. He broke into song with, "It's hot as Hell in Philadelphia" which was a reference to "1776" in which he played John Adams.
This was a wonderful series that never drew a large audience, and now seems to be mostly forgotten except for the fact it launched the careers of a lot of successful actors. As far as I know, only season one is available on DVD, which is unfortunate.
I adored this show but didn't see a lot of it as I didn't discover it for several years and then I worked second shift - way before VCRs, etc. Hoping it will come out on DVD or streaming. I think only season 1 is availale anywhere...
At 1:54 they show a quick shot of a group photo of the cast taken before the interview, and Christina Pickles is holding a picture of Flanders, so they made an effort to remember him, but, yes, would have been nice if they'd mentioned his name..
+Rick Dunn I think one can argue in hindsight that St. Elsewhere and Hill Street Blues represented the best of their respected genres up to that point in time,and so were both extremely influential.But in fairness,the roots for those genres run a bit deeper than that.One shouldn't forget Dragnet and Ben Casey for example,important shows for their time.They weren't the kind of large ensemble shows that the later series were,but in certain respects they still set a template.
You people are pitiful. How do you know why Denzel Washington couldn't come? A big star has big, contractual commitments...maybe that is why he wasn't there. And, he has a reputation of being one of the nicest persons in Hollywood. I mean look at this group. How many of them have acting careers that are 'hot'? Ed Begley is well known for his eco-lifestyle. Howie is a game show host. Mark Harmon is on TV. But that's it, so maybe it's easier for them. None have had the success that Denzel Washington has had...Two Oscars, 2 Golden Globes, a Tony Award and a number of other awards. SMH...Pitiful.
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot WRONG!!....Sorry, St. Elsewhere WAS his big break then he went on to make this corny ass movie called “ Carbon Copy” about being some white man’s long lost black son. Cry Freedom & a Soldier’s story came way later and further, we don’t make our own nothing!...whatever happened to God’s will and timing on all our lives? whether you’re white, black, green or purple!
Sorry, he’s not nice....he’s conceited. I’ve seen him multiple times on Broadway. He won’t sign autographs or take pictures. His wife is a sweetheart though and convinced him to take a picture with the theater crew at one time. That’s the only reason he did it! That guy drank his own Koop Aid. I was so glad when other actors like Samuel L. Jackson, Don Cheadle, Forrest Whitaker, etc. got the recognitions they deserved. Denzel is no longer our one pony, Sidney Poitier. And do you ever see the look on this guy’s face when he doesn’t win an award. He look like he’s ready to cry. He’s a good actor but he’s not the only one!
Denzel made his own fucking breaks. I didn't even know he was on this show until I was an adult. He broke out in A Soldier's Story and then Cry Freedom. It wasn't St. Elsewhere that made him a star...he made his own star. So clearly rooted in white bigotry...black guy is supposed to be 'thankful' when his own talent and hard work made him a success. Sit your ass down.
The refusal of Denzel Washington to attend is so typical of these reunions. On a lesser scale, it is equivalent to Molly Ringwald never attending Facts Of Life reunions after she made it big with the Brat Pack.
Molly Ringwald was let go from the show. Can you blame her for not gracing the reunion with her presence? She was treated like shit by the producers, so there is no need for her to be gracious to them.
+atlantic 11561 I know what you mean - It might sound corny but I've always felt that it was so important to embrace your early work when you've become a huge star. Maybe if someone didn't give you a break back then it would have taken you longer to become a success in show business. That's just my opinion.
+Andrew White Well said, Andrew! You are right, Molly did have an excuse due to the fact that she was only on FOL for one year. In addition, she was let go under some rather nasty circumstances. There is evidently a hierarchy in Hollywood in the sense that actors who "rise to a higher level" (the big screen) no longer feel obligated to recognize or reminisce upon their earlier ventures. However, where would they be without those early ventures?
+atlantic 11561 But, at least John Travolta showed up for the Welcome Back, Kotter reunion at the TV Land Awards. You're half right about Molly. She did start out there, but some people forget because she was only on The Facts of Life in the first season. She was one of 7 girls on the show originally and was one of 4 that were let go. I think they should've kept her and still added Nancy McKeon as Jo. The other three girls who left wouldn't have much direction to go in with their characters later on because they seemed so ordinary whereas Blair, Natalie, Tootie, and Molly (one of those character is the same name as an actor's real name situations, like Tony Danza on Taxi and Who's The Boss) were more unique and Jo made it more interesting. But because she was let go with the other girls, everyone just focused on Blair, Tootie, Natalie, and Jo. Most people seem to remember Molly Ringwald becoming a star with Sixteen Candles, then The Breakfast Club, of course, and Pretty in Pink. Truth be told, she turned down the role of Vivian in Pretty Woman that went to Julia Roberts. By the way, Julia showed up to that reunion this year AND even reunited with her Mystic Pizza costars the year before even though it was really Pretty Woman (or Steel Magnolias if anyone was paying attention enough) that really got her on the map. And Molly has shown up for Breakfast Club reunions with Ally Sheedy and Anthony Michael Hall, but Judd Nelson and Emilio Estevez always seem to be MIA.
Oh, and back to Facts of Life, you know who was also MIA from that reunion? None other than a cast member from the 7th and 8th season, GEORGE CLOONEY. Hope he makes his ER reunion. Otherwise, he's as bad as Denzel. LOL!
+Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot Did he win? Nope. Wasn't that great of a film and I feel his role was only nominated because there was a lack of diverse roles that were Oscar caliber performances. I think he was nominated by default just to fill in that last slot. Wasn't one of his better roles. Training Day, Glory, Malcolm X, and The Hurricane were among his best.
+obaidCarkey I agree. Some people are just too big for their britches. They soon forget where they come from. I don't care what kind of contract you have with a film company for a movie shoot, if they can't grant you a day to take a private jet to fly in for a special reunion of something that started it all for you, then the deal should be off. He's a big star because this show gave him his big break just like ER did for George Clooney. Same Cinderella story (both are Oscar winners), same type of show (hour-long medical drama), and even the same network and time slot (NBC at 10 pm, although St. Elsewhere was on Wednesdays and ER was on Thursdays). And because he's a big star he should've been able to make those type of demands and if they couldn't or wouldn't give it to him then it should've been their loss, not Denzel's. Because of his foolish commitment, he missed a possible once-in-a-lifetime chance to reunite with old friends and colleagues. And some of them are old now, who knows how long it's been since he's seen them and who knows when he will or if he will ever see them again. It's not like it would've kill his career. Producers, directors, and film companies will still want to work with him because he's a brilliant actor. I would hope that if an ER reunion happens in the future, Clooney will have the good enough sense to have a deal put in place to take a day off to join his fellow cast members from that show for an interview down memory lane. The whole point of being a big star is that you can do what you want when you want. But, if being a big star means you can't be bothered with your past and what got you there, then you're a butthead.
+flon57 there have been cop shows and hospital shows since Television began but yes HILL ST.and ST ELSEWHERE began to really change the look of television making it grittier and attracting a higher caliber of acting [I emphasize sometimes!] good to see these old dogs show up again!!
Not ONE single cast member mentioned how great the late Ed Flanders was on the show. They acted as if he never was even on the show.
Rumor has it that the late Ed Flanders became very irritable when people would associate him with The Simpson's animated character "Ned Flanders." Matt Groenig should be ashamed of himself for taking part in driving Ed Flanders to suicide.
It was the First Medical Drama that I loved watching way before there was A ER or even a Grey's Anatomy. It really did a lot. I remember Christina Pickles playing Countess Elena De Poulignac who owned a Art Gallery on Another World. Judith Light, Sydney Penny, Eric Stoltz, and Lisa Bonet also guest starred on the Show. Denzel won Two Oscars and a Tony Award. It dealt with Breast Cancer, AIDS and Autism way before it became a National Issue. Also, I remember the Actor who played Coolidge on The White Shadow (Also Produced By Bruce Paltrow) mistaking Timothy Van Patten for Salami.
Aside from Denzel Washington's absence here is list of other St. Elsewhere stars who WERE NOT included in this reunion. Ed Flanders (suicide in 1995), David Birney, Ronny Cox, G.W. Bailey, Ellen Bry, Bruce Greenwood, Terence Knox, Sagan Lewis, Kim Miyori, France Nuyen, Cindy Pickett, Kavi Raz, Jennifer Savidge, & Nancy Stafford.
Sagan Lewis and Jennifer Savidge were both part of the show from the early seasons but they were never listed in the opening credits until the final season. David Birney and G W Bailey were both in the first season but were "Chuck Cunningham-ed" starting with the second season. Cynthia Sykes was "Chucked" in season 3 or 4.
I had the BIGGEST CRUSH on William Daniels ever since I saw him in "The Graduate." Those eyes. That smile. And, that strange accent. He's a short man with a very tall persona. I assumed William Daniels was British until I Googled him and found out that he was born in Brooklyn. I am currently writing my second novel (a medical drama). Earlier this year, I found St. Elsewhere-Season One on DVD at a thrift store. I paid $4.94 + tax. I LOVE IT. It's really helping me with my research.
ER has nothing on St. Elsewhere..this show set a precedent. Never tired of watching it in reruns a few years back when PAX had it on. Extremely well done show with such and extremely stellar class of actors. A very special show none other in it's genre has come close since.
Norman Lloyd is a few weeks short of his 98th birthday here and still seems just as sharp as ever.The same with William Daniels,who's 85 here,and him and his wife Bonnie have been married over 60 years.Pretty amazing.
Howie Mandell made that show for little six year old me watching it with my mother. We would wait around wondering when Howie would blow up a plastic glove on his head. I remember it was reported once that he blew out a nostril because he did it so much.
Such a phenomenal show and ensemble cast when it wasn't common. And for those who don't know - the things announced over the PA system and characters that were referenced from other Bruce Paltrow shows: Mary Tyler Moore, White Shadow,....made this show more intellectual and funny. In a class by itself. Eric Laneuville deserves recognition amongst a great cast who went on to become incredibly accomplished.
Today I hit my TV remote and flip through shows that are so mindnumbingly boring and poorly acted I want to throw up.....Then there is St. Elsewhere....it was fresh and brilliant week after week...Thank you people....for a job well dne.
Such a monumental series... highly underrated. I absolutely love this show, and this amazing cast. They most of the priciple player for the interview! And wow... Norman Lloyd looks fantastic! Thanks so much for the post!
It was that long ago. I was working at a Boston ER and saw most of the shows in repeat. Everyone did such a great job! That same building is on Washington Street in the south end of Boston. One of my friends worked there, but the building was used for detoxing and being clean. Some of it was very real. The feelings of the shows were much the same as watching MASH.
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