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In Mad Men, Don Draper is the ultimate man's man, he exemplifies what it means be a successful business man, father and he does it all in style.
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Way to perpetually make people think they have to act like a non-committal egotistical and crude person. Drapper is not a man until the last 30 minutes of the whole series. Up until then he is an alcoholic and cheats on his wife. He is not a man. Yes great show, loved the show (watched it 8 times) but he is not a man to look up to when looking for a man to image yourself after.
Let me just say, I like Don Draper. He's a great business man; but as a Combat Infantry Veteran, I say: Ha! I've seen how he acts in combat! He's a big bad man in a suit; but an absolute COWARD on the battlefield. Wouldn't want him next to me, in Iraq.
I had a hard time placing the character during the entire show.
Yes he is a talented creative director.
But at the same time he is portrayed as an extremely insecure con man who also hates his job.
I feel the two arent really possible in the real world, and that this type of character wouldnt really exist outside a screen.
I think he was created more to exemplify some themes (social alienation, 60s values, advertising as a business, etc) than to be real.
....did we even watch the same show? why would ANYONE want to emulate Don after watching even just the first season. And honestly #3 was just an example of him fucking up while drunk and high on his fame
People knocking don here about him being a cad, sexist, egotistical completely miss the point. The reason we love don so much is he is all those things, sexy, egotistical, a cheater but he is also deeply deeply flawed which makes him relatable and ultimately makes him human. There will never be another show like mad men. TV at an art form level.
George Louis is the CREATION of the 1/4 of Don Draper. The 3/4 is pure George Louis who really is a man who is a face of esquire magazine and did multiple things for business in the 60's. Even MTV today is started by George Louis.
Don Draper's a very cool guy ,but that doesn't make him more manly than say, my grandfather ,who fought in the WW2 and took care of his family,like a man should, after he got home .Being cool DOES NOT equal manliness.
One can still say Don Draper is a coward. I mean yeah he has a tough exterior, he's cool, confident, and collective. That's his life as a professional who is good at what he does. But what about his personal life? He has abandonment issues, which is why he takes comfort with more than one woman, and the moment things start bothering him, he runs away.
did you even watch number 3? he was embarrassingly drunk and started impulsively remembering horrible slogans he had heard in the past, then tried to change it once he sobered up from his 3 day binge. don't see how that makes him manly
This might be the biggest public display of mutual idiocracy outside of the worst movie of all time that shares the same name. I loathe all of you and hope you die screaming from the symptoms of your own irrelevance.
You people do realize that Don Draper is a lying, cheating, cowardly, drunk douche bag of a human being who should not be emulated or looked up to in any way. Don't get me wrong Mad Men is an excellent show and easily one of my favorites. But the whole point of his character is how on the surface he seems perfect but in reality is the antithesis of what a man should be
Don worries too much about what other people think. I can't remember how many times he justifies his actions by saying "people do this" or "that's what people do". He is a deserter to both korean and his past.
A real man doesn't have affairs with other women. Especially, if their married as well. But, these things go on. And, those whose been on the receiving end, watched it for that reason, alone. Everyone is curious. I call cheaters: hound dogs. That's exactly what they are. If you run with dogs, you're going to get fleas. And, as far as moral high ground, that's me when it comes to this. It's still going on. That has never changed. It's always been like this and always will be. Now, there's just more women doing it. And, yeah, I have respect enough for myself, that I could never go with another man. I salute all men & women you know who they are and have enough self-esteem, they don't have to do this. We know who we are. Seems like so many don't or don't care.
Igniting Mental Fires To be fair: The show is a grossly inaccurate reflection of the time. Modern directors love to make themselves feel better about the moral degeneracy they promote by Presenting the fallacious idea that: "Everyone has always done it"; but The FACT IS: In the 50's Adultery, divorce, broken families were all So RARE, it would boggle the minds of most millenials. "What? People who loved their families and lived decent lives? Nah. I'll never believe it!" ...and THAT IS Precisely the Problem.
I think we love Don because he gets to do say and act the way we've all wanted to act at one time or another. I love the Slow Motion Scenes where he's putting on his Sunglasses. If we are lucky enough to have just for one day an occasion where we feel we own it like a boss we're it's "Our" World and everyone else is just living in it.
Would Dick Whitman have been any happier living his 'authentic' life back in Hicksville carrying all that garbage he grew up with in his head? Yeah nowadays he could spend a fortune on analysis or anti-depressives but men from his era self medicated in different ways. I think there's a percentage of 'modern' men who have never been out of their comfort zone and feel content pointing out the flaws of Draper era men rather than accept their own shortcomings on the masculinity scale. I mean if our way of dealing with things is so enlightened why are male suicide rates so high?
I guess we're not as smart as we think we are.
You're really missing the point AskMen. Don Draper is a construct, nothing he says or does is genuine until he cracks. He's a person defining himself by his outer shell rather than his inner essence. It's because he is completely invulnerable that he's so very emasculated - nothing he does comes from a place of genuine, free desire, it's all crafted to meet someone else's standard. The opening of the show is him falling to his demise for heaven's sake. There is a level of irony you are completely failing to understand here. Not surprising given that your magazine profits off the exploitation of male insecurities with watch advertisements and rubbish sections like "power" and "money".
Don Draper is a great character. He is not necessarily a great person, but the way that we are shown his flaws and downfalls as well as his badass moments (similarly in ways to Heisenberg) is what makes the show so great.
There is a yawning deceitfulness at the centre of Dick Whitman's life, which is why he can never be deep down content. Reinventing yourself is lovely as an idea, but in practice the cracks always open up, sooner or later.
He's actually a massive pussy, he is threatened by others success (acts like a surly bitch when Megan becomes successful in her show), has to lie his way through life (I don't even mean about his childhood but all the lies he tells to everyone around him like a whimpy bitch), is a massive hypocrite about everything (calls Betty a whore when he sleeps around like no ones business). That ain't no man to me! I'd rather have a nice, honest goof then Don Draper. Jon Hamm on the other hand... NICE!
1. he drinks more than you
2. he smokes more than you
3. he cheats more than you
4. he lies more than you
5. he orders people around more than you
6. he has been slapped by a prostitute more than you
7. he's had things thrown at him more than you
8. he's had different women taking care of his children more than you
9. he's removed dangling corpses more than you
10. he talks to your psychiatrist, about you, more than you
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