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In Mad Men, Don Draper is the ultimate man's man, he exemplifies what it means be a successful business man, father and he does it all in style.
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George Louis is the CREATION of the 1/4 of Don Draper. The 3/4 is pure George Louis who really is a man who is a face of esquire magazine and did multiple things for business in the 60's. Even MTV today is started by George Louis.
Don Draper's a very cool guy ,but that doesn't make him more manly than say, my grandfather ,who fought in the WW2 and took care of his family,like a man should, after he got home .Being cool DOES NOT equal manliness.
One can still say Don Draper is a coward. I mean yeah he has a tough exterior, he's cool, confident, and collective. That's his life as a professional who is good at what he does. But what about his personal life? He has abandonment issues, which is why he takes comfort with more than one woman, and the moment things start bothering him, he runs away.
did you even watch number 3? he was embarrassingly drunk and started impulsively remembering horrible slogans he had heard in the past, then tried to change it once he sobered up from his 3 day binge. don't see how that makes him manly
This might be the biggest public display of mutual idiocracy outside of the worst movie of all time that shares the same name. I loathe all of you and hope you die screaming from the symptoms of your own irrelevance.
You people do realize that Don Draper is a lying, cheating, cowardly, drunk douche bag of a human being who should not be emulated or looked up to in any way. Don't get me wrong Mad Men is an excellent show and easily one of my favorites. But the whole point of his character is how on the surface he seems perfect but in reality is the antithesis of what a man should be
Don worries too much about what other people think. I can't remember how many times he justifies his actions by saying "people do this" or "that's what people do". He is a deserter to both korean and his past.
A real man doesn't have affairs with other women. Especially, if their married as well. But, these things go on. And, those whose been on the receiving end, watched it for that reason, alone. Everyone is curious. I call cheaters: hound dogs. That's exactly what they are. If you run with dogs, you're going to get fleas. And, as far as moral high ground, that's me when it comes to this. It's still going on. That has never changed. It's always been like this and always will be. Now, there's just more women doing it. And, yeah, I have respect enough for myself, that I could never go with another man. I salute all men & women you know who they are and have enough self-esteem, they don't have to do this. We know who we are. Seems like so many don't or don't care.
I think we love Don because he gets to do say and act the way we've all wanted to act at one time or another. I love the Slow Motion Scenes where he's putting on his Sunglasses. If we are lucky enough to have just for one day an occasion where we feel we own it like a boss we're it's "Our" World and everyone else is just living in it.
Would Dick Whitman have been any happier living his 'authentic' life back in Hicksville carrying all that garbage he grew up with in his head? Yeah nowadays he could spend a fortune on analysis or anti-depressives but men from his era self medicated in different ways. I think there's a percentage of 'modern' men who have never been out of their comfort zone and feel content pointing out the flaws of Draper era men rather than accept their own shortcomings on the masculinity scale. I mean if our way of dealing with things is so enlightened why are male suicide rates so high?
I guess we're not as smart as we think we are.
You're really missing the point AskMen. Don Draper is a construct, nothing he says or does is genuine until he cracks. He's a person defining himself by his outer shell rather than his inner essence. It's because he is completely invulnerable that he's so very emasculated - nothing he does comes from a place of genuine, free desire, it's all crafted to meet someone else's standard. The opening of the show is him falling to his demise for heaven's sake. There is a level of irony you are completely failing to understand here. Not surprising given that your magazine profits off the exploitation of male insecurities with watch advertisements and rubbish sections like "power" and "money".
Don Draper is a great character. He is not necessarily a great person, but the way that we are shown his flaws and downfalls as well as his badass moments (similarly in ways to Heisenberg) is what makes the show so great.
There is a yawning deceitfulness at the centre of Dick Whitman's life, which is why he can never be deep down content. Reinventing yourself is lovely as an idea, but in practice the cracks always open up, sooner or later.
He's actually a massive pussy, he is threatened by others success (acts like a surly bitch when Megan becomes successful in her show), has to lie his way through life (I don't even mean about his childhood but all the lies he tells to everyone around him like a whimpy bitch), is a massive hypocrite about everything (calls Betty a whore when he sleeps around like no ones business). That ain't no man to me! I'd rather have a nice, honest goof then Don Draper. Jon Hamm on the other hand... NICE!
1. he drinks more than you
2. he smokes more than you
3. he cheats more than you
4. he lies more than you
5. he orders people around more than you
6. he has been slapped by a prostitute more than you
7. he's had things thrown at him more than you
8. he's had different women taking care of his children more than you
9. he's removed dangling corpses more than you
10. he talks to your psychiatrist, about you, more than you
+stipV so being a square ass straight arrow and getting walked all over is being a "genuine" person? Are you fucking serious? If that's the case, I don't want to be genuine. What a fucking idiot you are.
The guys at AskMen are totally missing the point, and also everyone else who tries to emulate Draper. Yes, he has tremendous masculine drive, energy, and confidence. But he's also a self-pitying, loser, sexist alcoholic. Whenever his macho facade falls off, it's clear that he's also a wounded little boy with trust issues, misogny, narcissism, sadomasochism, and an eternally scarred ego. He's damaged goods, an absolute anti-hero, this is why I love him as a dramatic character. So complex and complicated. The determination, the charisma, the creativity, the social savvyness and the seduction skills are great qualityes and are to be admired and emulated, but forget the rest. The apple is shiny but the core is rotten.
I saw nothing of self-pitying behavior in the show. "Loser" is just a vacuous judgment. He is portrayed as less sexist than other men of the time. Simply because he enjoys sex does not make him sexist.
Don is an asshole
But he's an asshole that most can relate with...whether it be good or bad ....and is don is a badass, he's had his moments sure, but for the most part he's always composed, always confident, and he's the biggest whore on television...we all know a guy like don
#3 shows him drunkenly plagiarizing from a man who he had refused to hire because he didn't like his work. That makes him manly? The literal next scene is Peggy lambasting him for it and later in the episode he's forced to hire the guy.
AskMen, you mislead me as a adolescent with articles like these. Back then (maybe a few years ago), your entire website seemed designed toward the next James Bond. Thankfully, I walked away unscarred. But in the end, I can't tell whether you did more bad then good because I learned how NOT to be a man from AskMen. This video couldn't be a more perfect example.
If you happen to be a satire on the roles men play in society, then I'm the dumb one for not figuring it all out and, please, continue exposing.
"10 reasons Don Draper is more maly than you" makes no fucking sense. because he is not real person. The person watching the video is. If it said "top 10 reasons Don Draper is the most manliest character on TV" that would make sense.
I guess 'good' and 'bad' are a matter of opinion. The nuanced writing of Mad Men, in itself a realistic reflection of existentialism, suggests a grey area where definitive labels are, at best, difficult.
He's not evil, he's amoral - much like Tony Soprano and, to a lesser extent, Jimmy McNulty. You love him because of his imperfections, you watch him to find his faults. You aspire to be him, but you want to be a better person.
+jmarklawton i dont like defining life as grey or black or white, thats not elaborate. and i dont think we're all complicit, we're all imperfect. therefore its not that we all make compromises, its that we therefore HAVE to make compromises
+jmarklawton what defines you are not your motives or your beliefs or your thoughts or friend or clothes or bank account, what defines you as a person are your actions. don draper may be lonely and confused and hurt and depressed and also very smart, but at the end of the day he does evil things which makes you an evil person.
The description of this video is the epitome of cherry picking. Don Draper is the definition of a broken, scared, cowardly and unhappy person. He isn't a good father. He isn't good at anything except for selling bullshit to people. But somehow, because he looks cool, dumb dudes want to emulate him. There's nothing to emulate. You'll never be as handsome as Jon Hamm or have that presence, and that's what this is all about isn't it?
Are you some kind of retard?!? We know he's not a fucking real person, jackass!!! Why do you keep going around telling everyone like it's news or something? Did you just find out he's not a real person and now you're so mind blown that you just feel the need to tell everyone every chance you get?!?
Son of a Zombie You know there’s a significant difference between being a father and a provider right? Incase you’re too shallow minded and didn’t know, there’s more to life than money. Making money alone doesn’t make him a good Dad
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