Elon Musk's comment to Stephen Colbert was great for sensational headlines, but there is some science behind the idea of thermonuclear terraforming.
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Mars = Cold
Nuke = 1,000,000+ *F
Warm Mars = Melted C02 ice
Melted C02 ice = Thicker Atmosphere
Thicker Atmosphere = Green House Effect
Green House Effect = More Martian Heat
More Martian Heat = NO LONGER -250 *F!!!!
NO LONGER -250 *F!!!! = Happy warm astronauts
Happy warm astronauts = Need something to be mad at now
Need something to be mad at now = WAR!
WAR! = Destroyed planet
Destroyed planet = Lets move to Saturns moon Titan now.
Lets move to Saturns moon Titan now. = Cycle Restarts
Cycle Restarts = United Planets Peacekeeping treaty to keep war in outer space.
United Planets Peacekeeping treaty to keep war in outer space. = SPACE FORCE!!!!
.....That's what I'm getting from this.....
Pollution is the Earth's way of saying . . .
I don't like what you are doing . . . but I understand . . . you are only human ! ! !
I say . . .
Would be helpful if we could somehow learn to be humane ! ! !
I think you finally figured it out . . .
a bunch of ATLASt rockets tied together with bungee cords (minus the warheads . . . of course)
that would be so affordable we could send the homeless and still make money ! ! !
And think of all the money we would save just getting rid of those stupid warheads (maintenance costs) and putting an end to homelessness at the same time ! ! !
Why the MOXIE is not the first option is beyond me...
This is like beating a mentally ill person to make them more intelligent. Though it may seem like Mr. Musk has a sound idea. The PvE is real. Machines could do this for us, and who knows, the nukes could release CO2 which could be lost to the ISM due to the gravitational make up. I suggest just drilling until you reach the core, insulate, then make your atmosphere from the inside. Similar to the movie The Matrix, the outside would be deadly, not machines killing, but lack of O2. It may smell like rotten eggs, but with enough time and insulation, a home could be made.
The travel & exploration of Earth by land or ships use to be dangerous. People died traveling & still do but no where near of that amount when we had primitive form of travel. Now what once took months of travel, now only takes hours, like going from Ny to Cali. I see traveling from earth to other planets in our solar system the same. With our first form of travel will take months & later just hours. Our biggest challenge is going to other solar systems
I'm sure no one has to die if it is done correctly . . .
Kinda like a small breathing apparatus that extracts the oxygen from the water and an anti-embolism suit . . .
Our biggest challenge . . .
living in space . . .
the (backward) reason we do not . . .
we have done nothing to deserve this . . .
One of the many reasons I do not like surprises . . .
When we have earned this right . . . I'm sure we will . . .
Fellas the problem with mars is, that its magentic field is way to weak to allow an atmossphere. It doesn't matter on which way we create an atmossphere on mars, as soon as the first solar storm arrives, the atmossphere will be be blown out into the cosmos
Nigga, it's mars. Blow the fuck outta of it if it makes it livable. If anybody argue's defending another fuckin planet that has literally nothing on it, instead of progressing humans to interplanetary travel, you deserve to stay on earth.
And what is it about Hiroshima that we still do not understand ? ? ?
Black wants out of the streets
Yellow wants the country
Red wants the country back
And white wants out of this world
- Jefferson Airplane - RIDE THE TIGER -
Nuke it! It's not like we will do anything with or around Mars for another 40+ years anyways. Also, who cares about it's "natural state" we're going to f it up when we research it anyways. Nasa is just mad because Musk is actually wanting to do something sooner rather than much, much later.
Nuking Mars sounds attractive, but discussions of terraforming Mars always seem to ignore the crucial fact of what made Mars a frozen waste in the first place, the lack of a magnetosphere. Other people have said this in the comments but it can't be stated enough...Terraforming Mars without first doing something to give the planet defenses against solar radiation would be a titanic waste. Simply terraforming Mars without dealing with the magnetosphere problem would only end up with Mars becoming impossible to make habitable after a few generations of solar radiation sweeping Mar's atmosphere into space.
Actually, Nuking mars is the dumbest idea. First of all, Trying to Terraform a planet ourselves is next to impossible and second, sending people there is also dumb because of the Galactic cosmic rays thats cause humans to become sick with radiation. Our planet has a thick atmosphere which blocks these cosmic rays from hurting us, On mars however, it does not have any atmosphere so it would hurt the people that go there, a better idea would be to go to Titan, because it has water and a thick atmosphere
Ugh. The people here thinking it's brutish or unthoughtful... We're talking about radically changing the climate of an entire planet in (relatively speaking) no time AT ALL. Of course that's going to take stupid amounts of energy coupled with a runaway effect that exponentially builds on itself. That's the only way to get there anywhere near fast enough (talking centuries). The slow way would take a million years.
NASA is so full of shit. They're still living in the 70s, it's so pathetic. Privatized space exploration is the obvious next step and suddenly when they're too lazy to do anything their response is "oh but the environment".... where's that attitude on Earth?
Hmmm. So now that we have failed to preserve our planet and maintain it's viability we have become the monsters that we fear in all those alien invasion movies . We fucked up our own planet , lets go fuck up another one . Wow , it just goes to show you , we arent advanced at all .Mr .Smith was right .Mankind is just a virus .We consume and destroy all that is good .
Maybe because they realize . . .
There is no light at the end of this tunnel . . .
Just a blinding flash . . .
Ten times brighter than the sun . . .
and after that . . .
the usual darkness . . .
that makes us all think . . .
that we must have gotten in the wrong line when God was handing out brains.
Well, if there are no other options known to make Mars Habitable, why not, or find an altetnative solution to make Mars habitable and colonize it? Or we can just do nothing and just wait for our world to eventually become inhabitable and thus our race dies out.
LOL they don't address the fact that all that released CO2 would just get stripped away from Mars again by the solar wind. Mars has no magnetic field... I'm pretty sure that would be a colossally stupid waste of money.
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Yeah . . .
I noticed people in Japan . . .
had no life until we nuked them . . .
NOW LOOK AT THEM . . .
If we could do that for the Japanese . . . why stop there ? ? ?
I'm sure there are a ton of aliens out there . . . just cannot wait for someone like us to nuke them ! ! !
The fuck can you do with protecting that "natural state" environment if it can't support life? I say give Elon all the nukes he need at least he's not gonna use it to fuck up humanity more like the leaders here. And protecting the environments? Really? Humans have been fucking up our own planet i don't see anyone effectively protecting it.
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