I want to know when someone is going to do a movie about the 1 million - 1.25 million Europeans who were enslaved in North Africa between 1500–1800.
White women with blue eyes were literally the top catch because African and Arab slavers would pay top dollar so they could rape them over and over. Why don't we ever hear about this? The narrative that is being reported is far too one sided.
Don't get me wrong, racism is horrible in all forms but I feel that European caucasians are demonised far too much in light of what other nations, cultures and ethnicities have done.
I mean, the slavers who delivered black men and women to the North America were black. The kings who sold their own people to the colonial nations were black. In fact, Africans were enslaving Africans way before white Europeans ever touched down on their continent. For over 200 years, powerful kingscaptured and sold slaves to Portuguese, French and British merchants. The slaves were usually men, women and children from rival tribes — gagged and jammed into boats bound for Brazil, Haiti and the United States.
Was it right for Europeans to buy slaves from African royalty? No. It’s fucking disgusting. However, the only people doing this were the elite 0.1% of society. You’re average man had no say in what happened. It’s the fucking elite and super rich that were and still are the problem. We are cannon fodder to them and they don’t give a shit. Race bating is just a way for them to deflect the attention away from themselves.
Hollywood keeps releasing movie after movie about black slavery and the Nazis which literally brainwashes generations into believing that the white European is the devil. It's totally bullshit.
Anyway, I digress. The monstrosities that happened to whites is totally underrepresented. The Slavic nations had it even worse. Nobody likes to talk about the Roman and Ottoman empires literally using their people as cattle for centuries.
People are ignorant to the truth.
I agree with your point. Africa is indeed vast and we can't group it together as one.
I'm sure some countries, tribes and subcultures were completely blameless and unaware of what was going on. However, for ease of communication I'm going to use the term African royalty to apply it to the elite from different areas of the African continent who were involved in the slave trade.
African royalty captured, subjugated and sold men, women and children from rival tribes and people of lower classes. The people who were captured and sold would have been geographically close. It's not like the Mali sailed to Ethiopia to capture slaves because they felt bad about enslaving their own. The African royalty involved in this would have been doing it very close to home. My overall point is that the elite Africans prayed on vulnerable Africans and were totally fuelling the slave trade. Here are some snippets that you can look into yourself.
Here is a quote from a piece in the Washington post:
"For over 200 years, powerful kings in what is now the country of Benin captured and sold slaves to Portuguese, French and British merchants. The slaves were usually men, women and children from rival tribes — gagged and jammed into boats bound for Brazil, Haiti and the United States."
Here are quotes from a piece in the guardian:
"In view of the fact that the Americans and Europe have accepted the cruelty of their roles and have forcefully apologised, it would be logical, reasonable and humbling if African traditional rulers ... [can] accept blame and formally apologise to the descendants of the victims of their collaborative and exploitative slave trade."
On behalf of the buyers of slaves, the ancestors of the traditional rulers "raided communities and kidnapped people, shipping them away across the Sahara or across the Atlantic".
"African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."
I would be interested to hear your views on this.
My original points remain true. Our enemy is actually human nature. Human nature exposed in the elite who care little about anything other than profit, status and power. No race is worse than any other race. Throughout history human beings fuck their own race and other races at any opportunity if it's within their own interests to do so.
People need to stand together regardless of race otherwise we are all going to get fucked again by the elite. Corporations exploiting people and destroying the planet. Human slavery is as large as its ever been.
The evidence supporting the horrors that white Europeans have suffered at the hands of different empires is well documented and can be easily sourced. However, for the sake of our discussion I didn't want to put too much in here. Best to tackle one point at a time.
alexanderuk111 I’m black but that sounds interesting. Could you link me to this information?
btw Africans weren’t “selling their own people”.
Africa is the most genetically diverse place on the planet. The people these slavers were enslaving spoke different languages, looked different, and had completely different cultures. We don’t say “Europeans enslaving Europeans”. We say the romans enslaving Britain’s. It’s the same thing.
Don’t fall victim to dunning Kruger effect, by realizing you’re just as ignorant as everyone else.
One more thing. Not all Africans were sold. While yes, a large portion of them were victims of the trans Atlantic slave trade,it’s of them were indeed free people in their west African tribes that were kidnapped.
I know this is old...But his wife getting whipped isn't even close to the most veil scene in this movie. How about the fight to the death scene or the half blinded person getting ripped apart by dogs? I mean come on
Jesus ABC can you shut the fuck up about trying to make this film seem bad? Quentin is depicting truth in history and all you're focused on is the stupid ass snowflake critics getting butthurt at the use of the N word which, mind you, was said ALL THE TIME in that era. Quentin is one of the greatest storytellers and directors of our time and all people do is get offended. Absolutely sickening.
I wanted to be Jack, not Rose...Adele? In another life...experimenting and creative types ENFJ versus ENTP...Justin? I shot expert without 11 Bravo training Jennifer Connolly! Just give some Lady a few Post-Mortem Medal of Honor...Terrence? 20 dollar bills?
Pfft reverse racism. I definitely think it's something that exists but I also think a little something called context exists. 'Killing all the white people' in a movie carries a much different notion to it when slaves and slavers from that place and period are central to the plot.
You don't see people defending the Nazi's just because we have a much friendlier Germany today.
If you don't know that Foxx is referring to that movie then you need to stay out of the business of forming opinions until you learn to follow along a little better.
Best movie I have ever seen. Friends say it's racist, but I always say no it's not racist to give an accurate representation of history, it's actually racist to downplay and whitewash it, for "Modern times"
Tarantino telling it like it is. History is F’d up and shouldn’t be watered down. Everyone forgets how disgusting this time period was. The loose use of the N word is suppose to make u feel uncomfortable
This movie was absolutely excellent. However I have to disagree with Jamie Foxx on black people dont want to hurt white people. I have worked at two jobs where i was the only white person. Never again will I do that. That was some scary shit. They were gunning for me every day.
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