Has the GOP leadership been lying to the party's base about the party's popularity, electability and likelihood of success in overturning Obamacare? Or are Democrats the ones being duplicitous by selling the nation a bill of goods they can't deliver on in the Affordable Care Act? The panel engages in a spirited debate on these topics and more during this combative segment on "The Point with Ana Kasparian."
Host: Ana Kasparian
Michael Stoll: UCLA Professor, Author - "Why are so Many Americans in Prison?"
Desi Doyen: Host - The Green News Report
Paul Chabot: Author - "Eternal Battle Against Evil"
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This guy is comparing the VA (single payer) to Obamacare that pushes people into private insurance plans. Does this guy understand what he's talking about???? The VA only had its funding increased AFTER the expose came out about the poor treatment of veterans at these hospitals that proved a black eye for the bush administration.
Please never have this clown on the show again. I imagine that there are some smart conservatives out there, but this guy is parroting mainstream con talking points, and it has no value on a show like this.
Republicans are racists, and everyone knows it. This is why they are into voter suppression. No self-respecting women would vote for a Republican to take their rights away, as would any minority. Republicans are on their way as were the Whigs. Good riddance.
Paul seems unable to think for himself; he's completely bought into the lies that the Republican establishment has sold him and fails to see how similar Bush and Obama really are. He has the full tribal mentality that believes that his tribe(Republicans) are always right no matter what anyone that disagrees is always wrong.
There is literally no point in debating with such a person as you can give them the facts and they will deny it simply because it doesn't fit the lies they believe in.
I love Ana but she's wrong on the voucher system not working, most of the european countries with better school systems than ours have voucher programs & that's why they do so much better because they earn those vouchers by providing the best education possible or they fail & go bankrupt.
A lot of people will never see through the lies, because it is too easy to believe that any facts against them are a conspiracy. We all know you can only buy so much truth for free. We do not pay for our news, or maybe $1 for a news paper. The advertisers pay, so they get what they pay for. When you know the news is not truth, it is easy to believe the truth is what you want it be.
Contrary to the panelist who uses the VA and claims it is the worst program, I have always had great service from the VA. He claims to be a conservative and against socialism, yet he chose to join one of the most socialist parts of our country, known as the military, and still participates in socialized medicine.
Funding is not the issue with failing public schools. They are always asking for more money, but the more they get the worse they seem to do. Vouchers are bitterly apposed by the teachers unions, but they work to bring more choice and competition into the equation.
If the schools were already failing it's because the government wasn't funding them properly. Once upon a time people had enough brains in their heads to realize education was important, and that funding it was important if you wanted children to succeed. Then Republicans decided schools were a drain on their profits and worked very, very, very hard to cut education funding and now they say- oh, look, the schools aren't doing as well as they used to. Big fucking surprise.
I LOVE Ana. This Republican pretending Obama hasn't bent over backwards to compromise with Republicans, only to be accused of being unreasonable. Obamacare is a plan Mitt Romney came up with. Compromising on the public option was a HUGE (and for liberals, unforgivable) capitulation- which he had NO reason to do, since it polled 70% in favor with the public. Obama has given, given, given to the Republicans, and all they do is bitch that he hasn't given anything? They are fucking liars.
Love it! Keep the opposition view but discuss in depth examples of their points. Making general comments with out data is exactly what everyone else does and just makes noise rather than adding to a conversation.
While I agree that there should be a conservative on the panel I'm not sure a conservative that just flat out runs off a different set of facts from reality is very useful, for the most part the audience will just point and laugh at the dumb comments made and be robbed of any particularly meaningful right wing points.
You know, there are only a few reason why I think the Republicans still hold so many votes:
A) The GOP kisses corporate ass.
B) The GOP kisses Religious ass.
C) There are still a lot of sexist and racist people in the states.
Corporations will never go away but B and C are slowly changing.
If the GOP don't change their ways, they may never see another Republican president in the US of A.
It's hard to take anything Paul Chabot said after defending G.W.Bush. Ya, I understand he's just trying to remain loyal to the party he believes in, but If he can't admit Bush was a tool, or actually believed he was a smart guy who did all these great things as the President, he's lost all credibility in my book.
AN-A AN-A AN-A! MY GOD I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!! I really hope Ana gets in on White House press conferences. -- and hey Ana, im in the VA in temple texas. Houston was terrible(don't get me wrong). but temple VA is really the only reason I am alive right now. They care about patients and are phenomenal!!!!! I cant praise them enough! and for that hack job to color all the VA with the same brush is wrong, unjust, and nothing more than propaganda... AND IT PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its not as if the hatred of foreigners against conservative parties in the west was the product of some thoroughly well thought through intellectual Position or some finely nuanced philisophical Analysis
you just know what side your bread is buttered on
its that simple
There may be next to no moderates in congress, but they still exist in the electorate. This guy isn't a politician, AND he's appearing on The Point, so I guess I gave him the benefit of the doubt in assuming he might be rather rational.
Every time anyone ever asks a conservative anything about Bush or failed conservative policies they ALWAYS answer with deflection. Disgusting ignorant stupid cowards. They just can't accept responsibility for anything they do. There is no way to respect people like that.
The House won't even bring a bill to the floor unless the majority of Republicans will vote for it and we have this guy blaming Obama for not "working with them." Let's set aside the ambiguity of that blame for a second. How completely backwards do you have to be to make a statement like that in light of that fact? Zero compromise vs "He isn't whispering sweet nothing's in my ear."
What's frightening is, there are so many of them. They may be the fringe, but this is a hell of a big fringe. In Texas the GOP is supressing the women's vote in an effort to head off Wendy Davis' race for the governorship. They now demand photo IDs, but if your name does not exactly match your voter registration, they won't let you vote. This is especially devastating for women who got married or divorced.
Do Internet search:
Texas Judge Almost Blocked From Voting Because Of New Voter ID Law
Just a side note. From what I saw, the VAs are the closest thing to universal coverage that we have, but only for veterans and their spouses. THAT is why the repubs want them killed. They don't want anyone to know that universal health care paid through the government, actually works. They can't just close it because that would prove the other major lie...that they don't really care about the military personnel once they come home!!!
That Republican is lying right there. Nancy Pelosi didn't say what he claimed she said. That's one of the routine lies on the right, something every Republican parrots, but it's not true. He must know that. He can't be THAT ignorant, can he?
But he stuck it in there, knowing that there wouldn't be time for a digression to explain the truth. So most people watching this will probably assume that it's true. After all, you hear it EVERYWHERE, don't you? Sure, every Republican follows the script.
Mr. Chabot is wrong about the VA Hospitals/Clinics. I've been to the institutions in WI, with my Dad. I was so impressed with how they operated. I am upset the way the VAs are characterized, lump sum. Same old talking points..."if one doesn't work, then none of them must work." The all or nothing generalizations are absolutely infuriating! People like Chabot should be ashamed, for propagating more LIES! Oh, and by the way, I have worked in health care for decades, including Mayo Clinic.
He disgusted about Republicans going after things while the media doesn't listen to them. So he's not disgusted what the Republicans are doing but the media is not listening to them and allowing the Republicans to spew the lies across the tv's.
There are intellectually smart
pro iraq war individuals
But You can't find a smart republican... within 2 seconds... they slip into the American People...the american people..bullshit.
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